deficit in medicare. to save the programs, the republicans want to save them as much as anyone else, to save medicare and social security, they have to be reformed. but the other side is sticking their head in the sand and saying you want to destroy medicare. no, we are trying to preserve medicare. >>neil: this dates back to the reagan administration, senator, and the fact of the matter is, under republican and democratic presidents alike, even adjusted for inflation, the money going out far exceeds inflation year in and year out. that is not sustainable math. this comes down to an unpopular issue because then you are going presumably after seniors or you ericing the senior -- are risking the senior vote. i have been talking about changing the programs science i started running. i said inof thebly the age of eligibility when you begin receiving medicare and social security will have to gradually go up. the next generation may age and under. >>neil: what is the cut off age in people in their early 50's who should lock at getting it maybe in their middle to late 50's in what? >>guest: